Replacing Big Government With Bigger Government

The media is on a full court press to bring Occupy Wall Street (OWS) to the fore. They are even tying Greek protests to OWS, even though the Greeks have been marching practically every day for the better part of a year. In other countries of Europe, people have been marching as well. The prospect of changing government programs is driving European people into the streets. Clearly, the big government model hasn’t worked.

Is that what Occupy Wall Street protestors want here in the US?

In a sign that the establishment leftists have grabbed control of the movement, Obama yesterday at the dedication of the MLK monument said it was time for the unemployed to rise up. I ask the OWS crowd, is it European socialism or communism you want? Because that’s who is driving your movement.

The answer to the problems the US has is not bigger government. More government programs are not going to be a salve for what ails you.

Look at Europe. Huge programs, huge safety net. They are out of money. Sooner or later private companies have to produce something to sustain the lifestyle you would like to be accustomed to. Governments don’t produce anything, and when they do they allocate resources poorly and we get bankrupt companies.

I pulled this geometric drawing off Chicago Boyz and I think it’s a good broad representation.

Okay Occupy people, ignore the emotional rhetoric and think about this logically.

Big government sets regulatory policy using a large, faceless bureaucracy. The bureaucracy is unaccountable to voters, because our elected officials can no longer manage and control all of it. Big corporations have the money and wherewithal to either lobby big government and create opportunities for themselves-or they are so big they can avoid the effects of it. Small and medium size businesses can’t, and start up businesses that are successful are so small they aren’t affected.

The answer to this conundrum is not bigger government to oversee and correct the problems of big government.

The answer is to decrease the effects of big government and let markets work to curb the influence of big corporations.

As an OWS protestor, you may not believe in the invisible hand, or the principles of Adam Smith. However, I can tell you from personal experience they work if left unspoiled by humans. The problem with markets happen when man makes a value judgement and monkeys with the system.

For example, there is a lot of unemployment out there. If we counted everyone, it might be over 20%. However, the government has stepped in and forcibly created unemployment with the establishment of the minimum wage. Unions have created even more unemployment by negotiating even higher wages. Supply and demand tells you that the higher the price goes, the lower demand is and quantity demanded (output) drops. Demand curves always slope down.

Try something less emotional. Bread. If bread is $3 per loaf, you will eat a certain quantity of it. How would your behavior change if bread were $15 per loaf?

You might say, “Those dirty bread companies are making too much money off of me.” But, producing that bread isn’t free. If the government sets the wage the company has to pay the employee, and unions further drive up the cost, it makes the bread more expensive. Going further, if the government sets an ethanol policy that makes the grain that goes into the bread more expensive, the cost to produce the bread has to go higher.

As the bread company manufacturer, I have a choice. Cede to the Occupy Wall Street demands and give them free bread, or at least bread way at a price way below what it costs me to produce and go broke. Or go out of business.

That’s exactly what is happening in all segments of the economy today. Businesses are choosing to go out of business, or they are not even starting. Huge multinational corporations can avoid the pitfalls of big government and can make a profit.

Big government always benefits big multinational business.

It’s exactly what we are seeing with Dodd-Frank and new banking laws. Big banks benefit. Medium and small banks get squeezed.

If Occupy Wall Streeters had any common sense, they would be marching upon the bureaucratic offices of the government. They would be marching upon the biggest supporter of big government and increased regulation that we have ever seen, Barack Obama.

But, I bet most of them voted for him. If you are a member of OWS that is ticked off-join the Tea Party. Don’t blindly follow the hard left wingers that are using you as a puppet to get what they want.

  • Sharmac2002

    Join Tea Party. ha, ha.

    Just so that I can shout such sensible chants like:
    They wanna kill Grandma!
    FEMA death Camps!
    Obama is a Kenyan Muslim!

    What do you think, everyone is unhinged as you?

    While OWS sensibly points out how economic disparity is ruining the economy and wouldn’t it be better if everyone paid their fair share to invigorate our nation we got this classic from the tea party:

    Demented Morons!

    So what’s the McCarthyesque monster tea party going to bring up now.

    I do enjoy is watching the right wing froth at the mouth.

    The last thing the right wing want is that people object to being both governed and robbed.

    But times, they are changing. Even Cantor back tracked from his “mob” remark.

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    • The Tea Party never said he was a Kenyan muslim, his father was a Kenyan muslim. Obama and the Dems do want to restrict Medicare, and Obamacare will establish health care rationing.

      I never said OWS was a mob; I did say they were puppets of the far left and they are.

      • Sharmac2002

        Read about the Kenyan Muslim line from the Tea Party below, you lying man.

        “Not Bad for a Kenyan Muslim Communist!”

        —By Stephanie Mencimer
        | Mon May. 2, 2011 12:51 PM PDT
        Fibonacci Blue/FlickrAfter
        nearly two years of relentlessly bashing President Obama, the tea party
        movement has been strangely quiet in the wake of the killing of Osama
        bin Laden. It seems that Obama’s powerful show of military force has
        done what none of his other policy moves have been able to do, which is
        shut them up, however briefly. And not only are they not taking to the
        airwaves to bash him, some are even grudgingly admitting respect for his
        administration’s success.
        Robin Stublen,
        a tea party organizer in Florida who’s no fan of Obama’s, says, “I
        think it’s wonderful. He did exactly what a president’s supposed to do.”
        Stublen says that many of his fellow activists feel the same way, and
        that most of the chatter he’s hearing from grassroots conservatives is
        pretty positive. “We realize a bad guy’s been killed,” he says. The
        nearly overnight change in the tea party’s focus was apparent Sunday
        night at the White House, where spontaneous celebrations broke out after
        the news of Bin Laden’s death spread. Among the many Obama campaign
        signs were enough Gadsden flags to give the celebration the look of a
        tea party rally.
        Kellen Giuda is the founder of the NYC Tea Party and is already working to help defeat Obama in 2012 through a new PAC. Yet he was among the tea partiers at the White House,
        cheering the death of Bin Laden. He later posted online photos and
        video of the scene, which included the “Don’t Tread on Me” flags so
        ubiquitous at tea party rallies. He wrote:
        Last night I, my girlfriend and a friend went down to the White House
        to celebrate the death of Osama Bin Laden. Being a Tea Party organizer I
        was happy to see some Gadsden flags and didn’t care at all when I saw
        some Obama campaign posters. 98% of the celebration was non-partisan and
        it was wonderful.

        It was crazy with people climbing light poles, songs (someone brought
        a drum set), singing our national anthem, people climbing in all the
        trees right outside the White House, chants of USA, USA, USA, and just a
        great celebration with Americans for justice and freedom.

        Even the cantankerous Judson Phillips, head of Tea Party Nation, was
        briefly forced to acknowledge that the Obama administration had sent Bin
        Laden “to Hell.” Even so, like other tea partiers, he was reluctant to
        give Obama much credit for the kill, writing:
        Obama is taking credit for this. He did give the order. Did he
        really have a choice? If word leaked out that he had solid intelligence
        on where Bin Laden was and did not act, it would have killed any chance
        he had at reelection.

        For much of Monday morning, there was serious radio silence from one
        of the most outspoken tea party groups even as the Internet was ablaze
        with the news about Bin Laden. The website for Tea Party Patriots, one
        of the largest tea party umbrella groups in the country, was still
        focused on the debt ceiling and $4 gasoline. Eventually, national coordinator Mark Meckler commented on the big news, telling National Journal
        that Obama didn’t deserve any recognition for the military operation in
        Pakistan. “Taking such credit would be an insult to the courageous men
        and women in our armed forces who voluntarily put themselves in harm’s
        way,” he said. “Any credit given is due to them.”
        But more the more common sentiment was expressed by a commenter on the Tea Party Patriots website who wrote, “Obamma [sic] killed Osama bin Laden – pretty good for a Kenyan Muslim Communist!!!”
        Still, as the euphoria over the initial news wears off, the tea
        partiers will no doubt find more reasons to be critical of the
        administration. Within hours of the late-night news, some of them were
        already starting the cries of “show me the body,” after learning that bin Laden’s body had been buried at sea—a sentiment fueled by Andrew Breitbart.
        Stublen thinks this bit of conspiracy theorism about Bin Laden is on
        the margins of the movement. “You’ll have to really look to find some
        loons to find someone” who really disagrees with what Obama did or
        doesn’t believe it really happened, he says. Stublen recognizes, though,
        that “pitching his ass out there in the ocean” is going to create some
        lingering suspicions about whether Bin Laden is really dead that it
        could be a problem going forward. “I hope they got a lot of pictures.
        That’s the only way we’re going to convince people,” Stublen says.
        “They’re going to have to release the pictures.”

  • @pointsnfigures:twitter , you know if you just make government smaller, and not get money out of politics, it will just make it THAT easier to buy the politicians since there will be less people to buy.If you truly think less government is the answer, then you would want a honest debate— one that you can only have if you #GetMoneyOut …

    Think about that awesome Venn diagram. 
    The left part (corps, and throw in unions, special interest groups) uses the Middle (The money in politics) to buy the right (government). Thats why government is “so bad” because it is a BOUGHT auction. If you cant buy government (thus make it “big” as you would say it), then there is no way it can pass/do things that will be counter-productive. If we truly had a “free-market” government (one that is not rigged), then the true answers will come out, be it free-market economics if your a libertarian or socialism if your a socialist.

    My plan: After passing an amendment to ban money (and overturn the citizens united case), Lets publicly finance campaigns so that the following stat would not hold true in 2016…94% of candidates in 2008 who raised more money won their race. 

    Do you agree? If not, why would it be so bad to get money out? 

    • I agree that we need to get the “influence” out. Money is one thing that buys influence-but you ought to take a look at the recent post at streetwiseprofessor.com about how classical liberals feel about that.

      My idea would be to allow every US citizen (including corporations) to contribute as much as they wanted to candidates-but that every single dollar would have to be searchable in an open and public data base within days of receiving the contribution.

      Then you know who is buying who. We’d end all these silly organizations that bundle money for both sides.

      The internet, and sunshine is a great truth detector.

  • Sharmac2002

    Hear Tea Party patron, what Texas director of Somos Republicans, the nation’s largest organization of Latinos, as he resigned from his leadership post yesterday, had to say about your racist party.

    “Today, we find the Republican Party has strayed from its roots and its
    founding principals so far that they can no longer be seen. We saw this
    yesterday, in the glare of broad daylight, when a leading presidential
    candidate, Herman Cain, not once, but twice, advocated for the murder of
    innocent people and that was met with cheers!Somos Republicans,
    America’s largest organization of conservative Hispanics, was alone in
    its criticism of this loud mouth hateful bigot. He says he was “joking.”
    Nobody here is laughing! The fact the GOP allows and applauds such
    outrageous thoughts is beyond reprehensible.

    To us, the idea of allegedly “Pro-Life” people shouting for the
    un-Constitutional use of deadly force is unbelievable. Then, too, we
    shouldn’t be surprised since Republican leaders have been advocating for
    the nullification of the American Constitution in states like Arizona,
    Georgia and now Alabama. When did Republicans, once synonymous with
    “conservative,” become so liberal as to attack their very own Bill of
    Rights in the 4th and 14th Amendments?!

    Where is Republican leadership?  Where has the guiding principal of
    “Morality” gone?!  If the Republican Party cannot or will not rebuke
    this hateful bigot and others like him who wear the mantle of
    “Republican” then perhaps the time has come for a rebuke of the Party
    itself!

    Ronald Reagan left the Democrat Party saying they had left him.
    Perhaps, I shall do the same because the Republican Party has become
    radical and unreasonable. President Reagan must be tumbling in his
    grave!”

    • Sounds like he is mad at Republicans. They aren’t the Tea Party, although I would agree that the Tea Party should try to work through the Republican Party first, and reform it.

      No room for social issues in the Tea Party. That’s not what it’s about. Small government, low taxes, personal freedom.

      But, there is zero chance that a Republican can get nominated for President that is not pro-life, and there is zero chance that a Democrat can get nominated that is not pro-choice.

      Their public stance on gays is the same.

  • Mo

    Jeff, I see the troll far Left crowd has found you, as evidenced by the rather unhinged comments I’m reading below. 

    I’m not shocked.

    Of course, what you wrote made too much sense, so of course it was attacked by the moonbats. None addressed what you actually wrote, not even remotely.  But this is the level of discourse that comes from the OWS and the Left.  Fallacious reasoning and hatred.  Ignoring facts and logic and history, and bleating on about every bit of non-related nonsense. 

  • Sharmac2002

    OWS does not want to go the Tea Party way. It does not want to be hijacked by monied people like Koch, or by any political party. Read what Tea Party founder has to say about OWS. Tea party co-founder Karl Denninger has been openly speaking about
    Occupy Wall Street for the past week and his message is refreshing and
    clear: “learn from the mistakes that the Tea Party succumbed to.”
    What was once a legitimate movement was quickly hijakced by big
    money, Denninger says. Vice President Joe Biden has said that Occupy
    Wall Street can become the left’s response to the Tea Party and if we aren’t careful, this prediction could come true. According to the Rocky Mountain Collegian, Denninger has given the following response in regards to the current Tea Party.
    “Tea Party my ass. This was nothing other than the
    Republican Party stealing the anger of a population that was fed up with
    the Republican Party’s own theft of their tax money at gunpoint to bail
    out the robbers of Wall Street and fraudulently redirecting it back
    toward electing the very people who stole all the **ing money!”
    The consensus is that the more people from different walks of life that join together, the more powerful and effective the Occupy movement can be.  But there has been plenty written about how #OWS and the Tea Party differ.
     The Tea Party movement was quickly co-opted by the farthest right
    leaning elements of the political spectrum and while Occupy Wall Street
    is leftist in nature it trends more toward the center than the extreme.
    By being inclusive rather than exclusive, by truly representing the 99
    percent, the Occupy Movement is setting itself up for longevity.
    “The problem with protests and the political process is that
    it is very easy, no matter how big the protest is, for the politicians
    to simply wait for the people to go home,” says Denninger. Then they can
    ignore you. People are saying, ‘You know what? I know I’ve gotten
    screwed by all of this but I don’t know how I got screwed. I just know
    that it happened. And it all came from New York and Washington DC.”
    A topic of discussion among many Occupy observers is whether or not
    the movement needs a written list of demands or if it should remain a
    visual statement representing the frustrations of the 99 percent.
    Denninger seems to prefer the latter and told RT.com why a list of demands would undermine the message:
    One of the things that the Occupy movement seems to have
    going for it is it has not turned around and issued a set of formal
    demands,” said Denninger. “This is a good thing, not a bad thing.
    Everyone is looking for a set of demands.” Denninger added that once the
    protesters formally approach the banks and government with a list of
    demands, “then somebody is going to say, ‘Well, we gave you 70 percent.
    Now go home.’”
    Denninger made reference to the undermining of the original Tea Party
    saying, “One of the things we wanted was the end to bailouts and an end
    to government deficit spending, and as you can see that didn’t happen.”
    According to Denninger, Occupy Wall Street’s best decision would be to
    stay the course:
    “Stay on message, which is that the corruption is not a
    singular event,” he said. “You can’t focus in one place. You have to get
    the money out of politics, which is very difficult to do, but at the
    same time you can’t silence people’s voice.”